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Zee pannier, in all their cramped glory!

The petticoat is coming along. Thanks to koshka_the_cat's tutorial, some stealth videos I took of her at CoCo and look through my extant garment files I think I'm getting there. At least it's looking like Katherine's so I can't be too far off. Katherine you are my hero and seriously I owe you one! *hugs*

It's poufing on the very outside pleat in a way that is annoying me. I'm going to try doing the other side of the petticoat a little differently, hiking the end up further on the pannier (I think it's down a little low) and adding pleats to the top seam and see if that helps. Thing is I'm wondering if it's just one of those 18th century things though. Like the poufing at the back of a 18th century sleeve that is actually correct.

Ideally I don't want pleats in the seam, I like the look of the flat top pannier. However in reviewing all my books and images I noticed that all the flat skirt top that I like so much are on the square-ish English pannier, not the sloping French like the one I just made. Huh. So maybe not.

Anyway I think my mock-up has the right amount of fabric for the skirt (3.5 panels of 45") so I estimated the amount I need (5.5 yd), measured the black velveteen in the stash and there is enough for my skirt - yay! I might even be able to squeeze out the bodice, we'll see. If not there is another piece in the stash, it’s just a different dye lot. I don’t think I care. Yay for over-buying fabric for pirate costumes! :>

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koshka_the_cat From: koshka_the_cat Date: August 24th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC) (link)

I noticed the same sort of thing with the French v. English thing. I think the shape of this one requires a little poof to sit smoothly. And the pleats aren't as pleaty as you'd think. I can't believe I didn't take a no fluffy stuff on top of the skirt picture, but here's the closest--with just the train:

And I think moving the pleats up a little bit is a good idea too. That way the fabric itself doesn't have to stretch going over things, the pleats do it naturally...
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:38 pm (UTC) (link)
Thanks for the pic! Yeah that is what I was thinking with moving up the pleats...
joysdaughter From: joysdaughter Date: August 24th, 2008 09:04 pm (UTC) (link)
Have you checked Hunnisett? There is a picture and instructions on how to pleat a pannier skirt, I think. It might (or might not) help!

jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:36 pm (UTC) (link)
I did but it wasen't too helpful. (No pics, except of a really pleated version which I don't want.) Thanks though!
padawansguide From: padawansguide Date: August 24th, 2008 09:57 pm (UTC) (link)
Wow, they look seriously fabulous!
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:39 pm (UTC) (link)
Thanks! It's really a ridiculous sort of style but it is fun to work on! :>
gilded_garb From: gilded_garb Date: August 25th, 2008 01:57 am (UTC) (link)
Eeee! That's awesome :o)
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:50 pm (UTC) (link)
I know - way too much fun!
girliegirl32786 From: girliegirl32786 Date: August 25th, 2008 02:56 am (UTC) (link)
Its ginormous! And I love it.

Now I cant decide if I want pocket hoops or a pannier in all its giant glory.
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:52 pm (UTC) (link)
Well I guess it depends on what you want it for. :> I like the pannier thing, somehow it's more elegant and I feel more graceful in them than in pocket hoops.
cracked_code From: cracked_code Date: August 25th, 2008 03:02 am (UTC) (link)
As always it is amazing to me that a little thread and fabric can suddenly look like that. Such talent...
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC) (link)
*bows* Thank you!
the_aristocat From: the_aristocat Date: August 25th, 2008 07:50 am (UTC) (link)
Looks great!
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC) (link)
Thanks! :>
chartreusekitty From: chartreusekitty Date: August 25th, 2008 09:56 pm (UTC) (link)
Woot! That's wonderful.
jennylafleur From: jennylafleur Date: August 25th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC) (link)
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